Drabickism: Against the Venomous Vomit of Ms. Am Drabick

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Drabickism: Against the Venomous Vomit of Ms. Am Drabick

Post  Admin on Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:21 pm

Am Drabick: You have been at this pope thing for quite awhile now Mr. Bawden - do you have a day job?

What the Catholic Church needs is good strong Catholics to guard and defend the faith during this - which is obviously the apostasy and everything else that has been prophesized - there are many good strong Catholics that I would gladly nominate for pope - but I am NOT GOD - and playing around at being pope, is truly harmful, on so many levels - it makes a mockery of the position - even the mere fact that the "pope" who is suppose to be inspired by the Holy Ghost is now on Facebook - an out and out tool of evil - is just plain silly and totally totally degrades the position.

Mr. Bawden, you surely must realize that there is only one way for "this" what is going on in the world today to be rectified and that is through the super natural means of God. Is there something supernatural about you?

Andrew Allain: Am, you seem a bit harsh. I am not a follower of Bawden, I embrace Eastern Orthodoxy as my faith. But,at the same time, why attack the man for having Facebook and being in touch with his followers? As well, Facebook isn't evil but certain things that people do on it certainly are.

Am Drabick: You are mistaken Andrew - Mr. Bawden does not claim to be a "man" - he claims to be the "pope”.... and popes do not have followers - GOD has followers.

David claims that he is the Vicar of Christ - that the Holy Ghost talks directly through him - perhaps because you are not Catholic you do not understand the severity of this statement.

Only a fool would do thus in the face of God - claim "holiness" where none was given.

You can call me harsh all you like but as the walls of hell are lined with priests and the floors are paved with Bishops ..."if" Mr. Bawden is pope.... he has ALOT to account for.

So who really is harsh?

I do pray he uses his time "wisely" on FB

David Bawden: What is a Catholic? A Catholic accepts everything Jesus Christ teaches through His holy Church. We need good strong Catholics and these Catholics need to be in visible union with the Vicar of Jesus Christ. Let us recall I did not appoint myself Pope, I was elected by a few faithful Catholics who reject all of the heresies that surround us in the Great Apostasy, whether coming from Rome and the usurping antipopes there, or the false Traditionalist 'answers' who in practice usurp the papacy.

Am Drabick: Nor did The College of Cardinals elect you. What if every single group of Traditional Catholics got together and decided to do this? Does that make sense to you? By what authority do you do these things?

I am reminded of Christ - several times it is said "by Whose authority do you do these things" ... the only difference in the bible the answer is ALWAYS GOD!

And sir by whose authority did you and your "friends" ... a random group of select friends do these things .... and what pray tell is stopping anybody else from doing these "things".

What you have done could only come directly from the hands of God --- and if so - if that were fact - it would be WELL manifested!!!!!!!! like our Lady of Fatima

You have had no authority from God to do these things - yet you have done so!

When something is visibly HOLY and coming directly from Heaven it can be seen - even if it is not acknowledged it can be seen.

What Mr. Bawden was so holy or so divine, or so not of this world involved in your "election"

It is nothing but more MAN MADE nonsense - not one drop different than that of Benedicts humanistic religion - believing that man has the power to fix what Satan has done

What did Jesus say to St. Pete when he tried to do things not the way of God - He said "get behind me Satan"

How the heck do you possibly believe that you are sent by Divine Revelation to be pope?

Answer these questions Mr. Bawden - answer how you are any different than any other man-made solution.

David Bawden: Name a Cardinal that is certainly valid and living. You cannot and could not in 1990, for all had apostatized into the anti-religion of John the Baptist Montini and "Vatican II". This matter is a little complicated for Facebook, but consider that the Church is a perfect society. As such she always has the means to provide herself with a Pope. In fact, Bishop Ngo-Dihn Thuc and his bishops discussed this in 1982 and 1983 until unfortunately the Thuc bishops fell into schism one against another in 1983. Therefore the faithful proceeded as is our right and duty in such unsettled times. Look into the website http://www.vaticaninexile.com for more details.

Am Drabick: So what you are saying Mr. Bawden then is that you are the same as the N.O. they create popes without valid Cardinals and so do you (your friends). In fact then we must ALL be free to create whatever pope we like.

Shall I rally my friends and vote one as pope - like I said I know many who are great and strong and courageous Catholics living by the Faith - perhaps many who are more knowledgeable and faithful than you. So far there is nothing here that shows you are an extremely knowledgeable or even Holy man.

It is a funny thing Mr. Bawden but when one watches video tape of Pope Pius XII he exudes holiness even for the camera.

David Bawden: Are you saying that without valid Cardinals it is impossible to elect a Pope? This proposition leads to denying a doctrine defined by the only Vatican Council that there will be a perpetual line of Popes until the end of time. (Interregna are not excluded, including a long one which is necessary to that all these things can be fulfilled.)

And let us not gauge by apparent holiness. Archbishop Lefebvre looked good, but in fact he was a tool of The Enemy (that is the Devil), who deceived many, including me for a time in the late 1970's. What is important is the total profession of the Divine and Catholic Faith and obedience to the Church.

Knowledge is not essential and in fact even holiness is not essential to the Papacy, although the Pope certainly should be holy. This is not a matter of "funny internal feelings", but of doctrine. Let us stay on course here.

Am Drabick: Mr.Bawden all of this is only your opinion - as I know you have been "pope" now for 19 years I am sure you have heard everything under the sun as to why you can not be so and have been mocked and ridiculed endlessly and you have rejected it all - and I am quite confident the mocking has only increased your fervent desire to be so - but none of that does not change the fact that you are NOT qualified for the job. And one has to ask - what kind of ego trip does this take to believe you are pope?

You so callously claim Archbishop Lefebvre was a tool of the Enemy - may I ask - did you have Holy insight into this claim? Does the Holy Ghost directly talk to you and tell you what is right and what is wrong?

Because very very clearlly Mr. Bawden all things fit into 2 categories - they are either the Will of God or the deceits of the antichrist. And you extremely BOLDLY claim that you are the will of God. That is unbelievably arrogant - especially when you have nothing to back up this claim except a few people (not GOD) that have claimed you are pope.

I read your letter regarding Teresa Benns - It left an extremely sour taste in my mouth, it was not the words of a man directed by the Holy Ghost but a man directed by self pride and arrogance.

Your parents did you no favour when they decided to make you pope just because they wanted one

We would ALL like a pope Mr. Bawden - but until GOD (not man) sees fit to end this interim we must wait it out - not call upon our selfrighteous behaviour - Mr. Bawden you do not even have the graces that God gives one who has been given Holy Orders.

Andrew Allain: In response to what you have said: "You are mistaken Andrew - Mr Bawden does not claim to be a 'man' - he claims to be the 'pope'... and popes do not have followers - GOD has followers.

1.Is not the pope a man?I know for certain that Peter up to B16 were men....

"David claims that he is the Vicar of Christ - that the Holy Ghost talks directly through him - perhaps because you are not Catholic you do not understand the severity of this statement."

2.The Holy Ghost speaks through the various councils of the church,not one singular man at all times.

"Only a fool would do thus in the face of God - claim "holiness" where none was given."

3.Maybe so,but who are you to make that call? A man,imperfect as all men are.

"You can call me harsh all you like but as the walls of hell are lined with priests and the floors are paved with Bishops...'if' Mr. Bawden is pope... he has ALOT to account for. So who really is harsh?"

4.I will still say that you are being harsh by assuming that Mr. Bawden will be cast into the eternal fire,or judged harshly.Only God almighty knows for certain who is saved and who is not.

Am Drabick: I did not say that Andrew. I said he will have much to account for soley by the claims he makes. I am not his judge. But I know the laws of the Church - if you make these claims then you best be prepared for what you have to answer for - this is common sense for everybody not just Mr. Bawden.

It applies to even myself - I will be called up for what I say and what I do .... so for heavens sake why would I wish to bring upon my head the name of "holiness" .... when it has not been given to me DIRECTLY from God - these people that "voted" for Mr. Bawden to be pope - had no right to do that by going over God's head. And Mr. Bawden has no right to the seat just because a handful of people were not happy with an antipope ..... I was not happy either - but to take it upon myself is scandalous and imprudent.

If Mr. Bawden would truly like to accomplish something important he should give up this sham and live a life of solitude in perpetual prayer and mortification and then he could become one of the greatest saints of the latter days.

Instead of causing more harm with his actions that are CLEARLY not Divine intervention.

Andrew Allain: Being a hermit is quite admirable, I must say


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Post  Admin on Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:21 pm

Ms. Am Drabick,

I have read your comments with wonder and deep revulsion. I wonder that any one can be so culpably and vincibly contemptuous and ignorant of Catholic doctrine, teachings and beliefs as consistently expressed for the last two millennia.

The Pope is not required to be “Supernatural.” The election of the Pope is not meant to be “Supernatural.” The Constitution of the Church explicitly excludes the possibility of a “Supernaturally designated” Pope.

God is Omnipotent, and not subject to men. However, He has made Himself “subject” in a manner of speaking, to the good faith of men. Thus, for example, He allows men to have power over His Eucharistic Body, allowing them to abuse Him. He has made Himself man’s hostage.

Likewise, the institution of the Papacy is confided to mere men. God will NOT intervene directly or miraculously. Catholic doctrine excludes the possibility of a man becoming Pope purely by an alleged “supernatural designation.”

The pretension that men must not act to elect the Pope but that they must “wait upon God,” is NOT taught by God, and is contrary to the teachings of God and of His Church. Like Guerardism, it can originate only with Satan’s Agents, who are motivated towards confusing souls, and retarding them from fleeing from slavery under Satan and returning to Christ. It shares the same purpose with Guerardism and Lefebvrism.

The Church has condemned the heresy of Quietism, the belief that men must not act but must merely wait upon God to act. Jesus Christ, responding to St. Thomas the Doubter’s confession, affirmed that those who did not see yet believed were blessed.

You are reviving the heresy of Quietism. Your agenda is clearly that of Satan, which is that of misleading souls into the maws of hell.

Now to answer your maliciously anti-Catholic venom:

1. Whether Pope Michael has a “day job” or not is none of your concern. YOU are not supporting him, and you have no business asking that question. Since YOU don’t support him, you have one obligation regarding how he supports himself: SHUT UP!

2. Pope Michael is not “playing” at being Pope.

Papal Electors, whatever their nature, whether Cardinals, or otherwise, are not “playing God,” they are merely being faithful to God.

3. If “being on Facebook” is “being on an out and out tool of evil” what are YOU doing here? By your own criteria, you certify yourself an agent and slave of Satan. Facebook is not of itself “Satanic.” It is merely a tool created by human beings for social communication, and like all things neutral in themselves, capable of being used for both good and evil. YOU obviously, are using it for evil, which is why you implicitly admit yourself to be an agent of Satan, a slave of darkness.

4. The Pope is not “inspired by the Holy Ghost.” He never is. You are confusing Prophets and the Papacy. A Prophet is inspired by the Holy Ghost. The Pope is a man who is used by the Holy Ghost to guide the Church of Jesus Christ to eternal salvation. The Church has never said that the Pope is “inspired,” and has rather affirmed the contrary. If the Pope is inspired by the Holy Ghost, he would be positively infallible in everything whatsoever. But the Church states that the Pope can err in private expressions, and when acting as a private teacher or theologian, as did Pope John XXII on the immediacy of the Beatific Vision; if the Popes were inspired by the Holy Ghost, it would be impossible for them to err even as private persons.

5. The Pope being on Facebook does not “degrade the position,” and anyway YOU are not the JUDGE of the Pope; God DID NOT appoint you JUDGE of the Pope to tell him what he can do and what he cannot do, what fora he can use for his job and what he cannot. So, once again, SHUT UP and can the nonsense!

Coming to your other idiotic and anti-Catholic claims and pretensions:

You say, “David claims that he is the Vicar of Christ - that the Holy Ghost talks directly through him.”

Neither has Pope Michael nor has any other Catholic pope in history ever claimed as you say, that “the Holy Ghost talks directly through him.” You are evidently not a Catholic, or are contemptuously and vincibly ignorant of Catholicism.

You say: “Only a fool would do thus in the face of God - claim ‘holiness’ where none was given.”

YOU are not the Pope’s Judge. God did not give you that authority. YOU are no one to say whether anybody is holy or not. Only a Spiritual Prostitute will arrogate and presume to himself or herself that authority.

The Pope is called “Holy” not because of any personal holiness, but because he is the Vicar of Christ, and the instrument of the Holy Ghost, who is personally responsible for choosing him and for guiding him in ruling and guiding the Catholic Church.

There have been bad popes before, including those who have committed violence, robbery, murders, fornications. Despite all of that, Catholics are obliged to confess them as “Holy Fathers.” Only one who is a Slave of Satan would deny them that appellation.

You said: “but none of that changes the fact that you are NOT qualified for the job”

NOBODY appointed YOU a judge of who is qualified or is not qualified. Since YOU don’t have that authority, SHUT UP.

The Catholic Church says that any Catholic, even a layman and even a married layman can be elected, and immediately upon being elected, and immediately upon his accepting, he becomes truly and fully Pope, Bishop of Rome with complete jurisdiction, even before his ordination and consecration.

YOU, Ms. Am Drabick, are nothing but a Satanist and a Spiritual Prostitute. ENOUGH of YOUR SATANIC VOMIT! STOP THIS NONSENSE RIGHT NOW AND LEAVE US CHRISTIANS ALONE!


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Post  Admin on Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:22 pm

It is typical of the Pharisees, that when their malice is exposed and attacked in response to their attacks against Catholic truth, they forget that they are the aggressors and offenders and pretend to be the injured party. Typically, they claim for themselves the right to insult and offend Catholics, but when taken to task for being the Pharisees and white-washed sepulchers that they are, they cry out about how they are being victimized and "wronged."

Wonders will never cease. I fully expect the hypocrite Ms. Am Drabick to do exactly the same.
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